[00:24:49.27] Mary: Yep. Alright. Again, we’re only a page into the chapter, but he brings up something else that’s quite important. Just there in the next paragraph, he begins to say : Activity is the natural heritage of the soul, excelsior its motto, and holiness its goal; thus their united endeavour had been to arouse in me a great desire to reach out after the ideals which ever lie on before; to realise the fact that the legitimate satisfaction of man can only be achieved when, like the Psalmist of old, he awakes to the consciousness that he has attained to the likeness of God.
[00:25:38.01] A.J.: Mmm. Some pretty important things there, actually. Particularly this side of the activity of the soul. Like, I see a lot of people, on earth in particular, in this state of what you would classify as ‘blissful ignorance’ and ‘blissful desire to remain inactive’; and it’s a very temporary bliss, because nothing really comes of it. No real progress is ever made; and on top of that, many of these people arrive in the spirit world in the hells, because of their lack of desire; and they don’t know anything about desire, in fact. They neither know what it looks like to have a desire unfulfilled; or fulfilled; nor do they know what it looks like to have a desire in the wrong direction compared to the right direction; or in a loving direction compared to an unloving direction. And because they don’t understand desire at all, they sit in places of stagnation for such long periods of time; and they are some of the most difficult people to help in the spirit world, actually. These people who sit in the stagnation; in the desire for ignorance; and the desire for not doing anything, just sit there, hoping that some external force will come to their aid; and it never does. Until they learn the lesson that activity is required on their part before any real change is going to occur.